Monday, May 28, 2007
Liberals Do Not Support Israel
Today Jason Cherniak is trying to convince us that Stephane Dion and the Liberal party care about Israel. Jason says it's a Liberal party priority. He cites the fact that Stephane Dion, Gerrard Kennedy, Michael Ignatieff amongst other prominent Liberals attended the United Jewish Appeal's Walk with Israel. Thats interesting.
Sure they support Israel when it comes to a nice walk in the park. But when it comes down to brass tacks, the Liberals would sell Israel down the river in a heart beat.
At the Liberal leadership convention, which Dion won, Bob Rae was attacked "because his wife is Jewish". It is alleged that the attack came from Gerrard Kennedy supporters. Gerrard Kennedy ended up supporting Stephane Dion, a move which ultimately ended Bob Rae's leadership bid.
Of course there's also Michael Ignatieff's infamous accusation of Israeli war crimes being committed in Lebanon during last summer's war. Iggy never did retract those comments, he simply revised his comments to accuse Israel AND Hezbollah of committing war crimes. Clever.
Thirdly, during last summer's conflict between Lebanon and Israel, the Liberal party under Bill Graham denounced Prime Minister Stephen Harper because of his strong support for Israel. The Liberals thought that Canada should remain neutral in a conflict between the sovereign state of Israel and the terrorist organization Hezbollah.
Then there's dear Stephie. When Stephen Harper took the initiative to cut off funding to Hamas, another terrorist organization that stages almost daily rocket attacks on Israeli civilians, Stephane Dion was the Liberal foreign affairs critic. His response was to slam Harper, saying "The social problems [in the territories] are awful and, in fact, Canada should do more not less. So to cut $7-million would be a mistake."
So to sum it up Stephane Dion, the leader of the Liberal party has suggested Canada should fund an anti-Israeli terror group. His second in command, Michael Ignatieff, accused Israel of war crimes, when in fact they were defending themselves against a terrorist organization. The man who's support won the leadership for Dion helped him along the way by slandering his political opponent for marrying a Jew. Former Liberal leader Bill Graham, from whom Dion took the reigns of the party, explicitly said that Canada should not support Israel.
But Jason Chernaik says the Liberals support Israel, because they showed up for a walk in the park. It seems the Liberals can walk the pro-Israeli walk, but they won't talk the talk. I think Stephen Harper was correct when he accused the Liberals of being "anti-Israel".
Update: Rene reminded me about Denis Coderre's story. Denis Coderre, is the Liberal National Defense critic, and another person I'd call a "higher-up" in the Liberal party. Coderre marched in support of Hezbollah last summer. Thats the same Hezbollah that started the conflict by kidnapping an Israeli soldier and firing rockets at civilian targets in Israel. But seriously, Liberals support Israel. Seriously.
Sure they support Israel when it comes to a nice walk in the park. But when it comes down to brass tacks, the Liberals would sell Israel down the river in a heart beat.
At the Liberal leadership convention, which Dion won, Bob Rae was attacked "because his wife is Jewish". It is alleged that the attack came from Gerrard Kennedy supporters. Gerrard Kennedy ended up supporting Stephane Dion, a move which ultimately ended Bob Rae's leadership bid.
Of course there's also Michael Ignatieff's infamous accusation of Israeli war crimes being committed in Lebanon during last summer's war. Iggy never did retract those comments, he simply revised his comments to accuse Israel AND Hezbollah of committing war crimes. Clever.
Thirdly, during last summer's conflict between Lebanon and Israel, the Liberal party under Bill Graham denounced Prime Minister Stephen Harper because of his strong support for Israel. The Liberals thought that Canada should remain neutral in a conflict between the sovereign state of Israel and the terrorist organization Hezbollah.
Then there's dear Stephie. When Stephen Harper took the initiative to cut off funding to Hamas, another terrorist organization that stages almost daily rocket attacks on Israeli civilians, Stephane Dion was the Liberal foreign affairs critic. His response was to slam Harper, saying "The social problems [in the territories] are awful and, in fact, Canada should do more not less. So to cut $7-million would be a mistake."
So to sum it up Stephane Dion, the leader of the Liberal party has suggested Canada should fund an anti-Israeli terror group. His second in command, Michael Ignatieff, accused Israel of war crimes, when in fact they were defending themselves against a terrorist organization. The man who's support won the leadership for Dion helped him along the way by slandering his political opponent for marrying a Jew. Former Liberal leader Bill Graham, from whom Dion took the reigns of the party, explicitly said that Canada should not support Israel.
But Jason Chernaik says the Liberals support Israel, because they showed up for a walk in the park. It seems the Liberals can walk the pro-Israeli walk, but they won't talk the talk. I think Stephen Harper was correct when he accused the Liberals of being "anti-Israel".
Update: Rene reminded me about Denis Coderre's story. Denis Coderre, is the Liberal National Defense critic, and another person I'd call a "higher-up" in the Liberal party. Coderre marched in support of Hezbollah last summer. Thats the same Hezbollah that started the conflict by kidnapping an Israeli soldier and firing rockets at civilian targets in Israel. But seriously, Liberals support Israel. Seriously.
Labels: Bill Graham, Gerrard Kennedy, Hezbollah, Israel, Liberal Party, Michael Ignatieff, Stephane Dion, Stephen Harper
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Using the theory that showing up for a walk means outright support for Israel, I guess it could also be said that the Liberal party fully supports Hezbollah since Dennis Codere marched with Hezbollah supporters during the was with Israel last year.
I guess this is what Stephane Dion means when he says that Canada should remain neutral?
I guess this is what Stephane Dion means when he says that Canada should remain neutral?
Anonymous Liberals attack Rae's wife for supporting UJA. Dion goes out to display support for the UJA. You don't see the stupidity in suggesting that the Liberal Party is responsible for the anonymous Liberal, but not the actions of the leader?
Yes some Liberals have done some stupid things when it comes to Israel - the point is that the current leadership is being strong in its support.
Yes some Liberals have done some stupid things when it comes to Israel - the point is that the current leadership is being strong in its support.
Stephane Dion benefited from the anti-semitic comments of said "anonymous liberal", then denounced those actions. Aside from distancing himself from that "anonymous liberal", and going for a walk in the park for Israel, Dion has not said or done anything to show support for Israel.
And Rene, thanks for the reminder.... I completely forgot about Codere.
And Rene, thanks for the reminder.... I completely forgot about Codere.
Everybody seems to know it happened, yet nobody actually saw the fliers on the floor of the convention.
The fact that some jerks are anti-Semites does not mean that their anti-Semitism played a meaningful role in the vote at the Liberal convention.
The fact of the matter is that the Liberal leadership does support Israel. You seem to want people to believe otherwise and, if that is the case, then you are no real friend of the Jewish State.
The fact that some jerks are anti-Semites does not mean that their anti-Semitism played a meaningful role in the vote at the Liberal convention.
The fact of the matter is that the Liberal leadership does support Israel. You seem to want people to believe otherwise and, if that is the case, then you are no real friend of the Jewish State.
Jason, comon. Are you denying the convention incident happened? Are you calling Bob Rae and his wife liars?
It's not the effect of what a few anti-Semites have on the party, it's their very presence which is worrying.
And are you seriously saying I'm no friend of Israel because I point out a few facts about the Liberal party? Please! Thats weak Jason.
If you take cheap shots at the Conservatives' Clean Air Act, clearly you're no real friend of the environment...?!?!
It's not the effect of what a few anti-Semites have on the party, it's their very presence which is worrying.
And are you seriously saying I'm no friend of Israel because I point out a few facts about the Liberal party? Please! Thats weak Jason.
If you take cheap shots at the Conservatives' Clean Air Act, clearly you're no real friend of the environment...?!?!
Yesterday, I saw that a white supremacist group linked to the same post. When I read the forum, they explained that while the Tories also support Israel, at least they share some policies in common and will, thus, vote Tory.
I would never suggest that the Tories should be blamed for the fact that some white supremacists support them. Why do you claim that the Liberals should be blamed for having some anti-Israel supporters? Just because it came out at the convention?
Perhaps first you should consider whether those convention antics had any effect on Liberal Party policy. If you do that, I think you will see that the only effect (if any) was to lead Dion to be more vocal in favour of Israel!
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I would never suggest that the Tories should be blamed for the fact that some white supremacists support them. Why do you claim that the Liberals should be blamed for having some anti-Israel supporters? Just because it came out at the convention?
Perhaps first you should consider whether those convention antics had any effect on Liberal Party policy. If you do that, I think you will see that the only effect (if any) was to lead Dion to be more vocal in favour of Israel!
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